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PS5: what does the future hold for PlayStation 5?
Update: With the PlayStation 4.5 set to be released in late-2016 it’s looking unlikely that we’ll be seeing a ‘true’ PlayStation 5 any time soon. Indeed, according to one senior Sony executive the console is a question of ‘if’ rather than ‘when’ with more frequent smaller updates expected to replace the traditional six-year hardware cycle. Nevertheless, we can’t help but wonder what the PS5 might one day have in store…
It probably won’t happen this year, but the PS5 is almost guaranteed to arrive on shelves eventually. Yep, we’d bet our game collection that the Sony PlayStation 5 is probably in development right now.
How can we be so sure?
The PlayStation 4 has now sold 35 million units worldwide and has shown no sign of slowing down. There are plenty of excellent games still to come on this generation of hardware (see: the best games on PS4), but the next iteration is right around the bend.
Our wish list for an eventual PS4 update includes HDMI 2.0 connections and an Ultra HD Blu-ray drive for 4K playback, something that should absolutely be possible on Sony’s next-generation of hardware.
On the software side of things, Sony has done a fantastic job re-working and improving the PS4 over the past two years – PlayStation Now, pre-loading games, YouTube streaming and PlayStation TV to name but a few additions – and we hope that trend will continue long after the PS4 runs its course.
There’s a chance the PlayStation 5 will be the big, component-packed box we’ve grown accustomed to heating our living rooms. But it also could be a palm-sized streaming device or dive even deeper into the world of game streaming skipping traditional hardware systems altogether. There are a half-dozen equally likely scenarios about how Sony can change its system, however, if we were a betting site, it’s unlikely that the PS5 will change too much.
Why? Sony isn’t big on change.
Gazing back 20 years to the original PlayStation and its successors – yes, you’re that old – it’s fascinating how little really changed until the internet explosion of the last few years.
That puts the PS5 in a strange position. When the time comes for a new system in the next five to 10 years, will Sony take this opportunity to change its platform forever or will it stick to its guns?
Here’s what Sony needs to place at the top of the priority list for its next system.
Discs are so 20 years ago
Now that PlayStation Now and streaming capabilities are the norm rather than the exception, shouldn’t we scrap the disc drive already?
We can hear it from here. Despite the magazine dropping the legendary demo disc in the middle of last year, ex editor of Official PlayStation Magazine, Ben Wilson disagrees.
“Steam on PC has taught us that disc drives are becoming less and less necessary, but I can’t see them being phased out completely for a while yet,” he says.
“People love their boxed products, and ‘experts’ have been predicting the ‘imminent’ demise of the CD for more than 20 years. Remind me how that one has turned out? There will always be those who prefer special editions and sexy packaging to invisible downloads, and it’s those guys and girls who’ll ensure disc drives live on within gaming in some form.”
Looking at the ages of the people investing in technology (that’s us remember, and let’s be honest, we’re not getting any younger) we do still have the desire to buy physical products despite their ready availability online.
But it’s not just PlayStation (and better pricing on the PlayStation Store) that needs to evolve here. Our broadband speeds largely still leave much to be desired and a solid online infrastructure will have to be implemented before we depend solely on fibre-optic wires to get our gaming fix.
Adding an extra hurdle to a disc-less world, there’s yet another reason why the upcoming preloading feature will be like a gift from the PlayStation gods: size.
“I’d argue that the ever-expanding size of games would cause significant issues for a digital-only machine,” says Matt Pellett, current editor of Official PlayStation Magazine.”Both in terms of download times and the number of games people could store on their hard drive at any one time.”
Of course, there are also Ultra HD Blu-rays to consider. These high-capacity discs can store 50-100GB of data, and considering how intricate games are becoming, it’s the sort of media we’ll need our next next-gen games to be shipped on. But the discs are part-and-parcel with the player itself.
Sony is quite likely to want to keep momentum going with the new disc format too and so it wouldn’t be a huge surprise to see it wanting to do that with a UHD Blu-ray drive in the next version of the PlayStation.
With the new PS4.5 promising support for 4K resolutions, we wouldn’t be surprised if the new UHD Disc format ended up making it into a PlayStation before the PS5.
PlayStation Now is the time
Then again, Sony already has a solution to its physical media problem with PlayStation Now. Game size? No problem. It’s all in the cloud.
But what about choice? If it wanted to, Sony could fill it with every game from its back catalog.
“If we end up in a place where streaming games is the norm, like it has become in the movie/box-set rental market, then the console itself is under threat,” says PC Gamer’s resident tech expert Dave James. “And if there’s no actual console, what do the developers target and what do they develop on and how does Sony make its money?”
So while a physical console still seems the most attractive prospect here for Sony, PlayStation Now seems an excellent solution as an additional feature, especially for accessing games from previous generations that saves you blowing the dust off that enormous original PS2 you’ve not been able to say goodbye to.
Another matter is the thorny issue of cost. If we’ve shelled out for the newest console, what’s the sting for the back catalogue?
“The big talking point of the PlayStation Now has been the price-point,” says Pellett. “Sony needs to get this right in order to be as competitive in the streaming market as it is in the console hardware market. With Sony’s library of games and the ability for people to revisit the games they can’t play on PS4 – and in some cases can’t buy these days – it could become a hugely important part of the PlayStation family.”
The suggestion of the PlayStation family here is important. Sony has already started shipping TVs with Playstation Now built in, and Samsung has also gotten in on the action, but this won’t be a replacement for the PS5 or any future consoles.
Too much rests on the power from our home consoles as new tech appears on the horizon. Yes, we’re looking at you Playstation VR.
The VR revolution
Playstation VR looks like the future. No, really.
The Oculus Rift and HTC Vive may be available now, but unless you have a pretty beastly (read: expensive) gaming PC, you’re not going to be able to use one anytime soon. PlayStation VR is much more affordable in this regard, because it should work with your existing console, which is much cheaper than most of the gaming PCs out there.
For reference, Sony has said that the headset will run you $399 / £349 / AUD$549 / €399 and will be available starting in October.
But don’t get too excited just yet, there’s a catch. With both the Vive and Oculus requiring such powerful machines to run, it’s difficult to see the PS4 coping with the demands of PlayStation VR. The imminent arrival of the PS4.5 appears to be in part a response to these concerns, but we think it’s going to take more than a hardware refresh to make a truly VR-ready PlayStation.
By the time the PS5 arrives, virtual reality will likely be established as a dominant force in gaming, hopefully resulting in a console that’s built from the ground up for VR experiences.
VR is currently too new for us to be able to hypothesise about whether it will completely replace gaming on a traditional TV screen, but it’s interesting to think what the PS5 could end up looking like if it ends up being a console that’s designed for VR first.
At that point would the console’s entire front-end be a VR menu rather than a traditional screen-based menu? Will we be reaching out to select which games we want to play next with our motion controllers?
Of course that’s assuming the PS5 isn’t just completely built into a VR headset. The miniaturisation of electronics that would be required to make that work would be immense, but in combination with cloud streaming it could theoretically be possible one day.
A question of ‘if’ rather than ‘when’
Of course, with all these iterative software updates, and the PS4.5, we might not ever actually see a PS5. When Shuhei Yoshida, president of Sony’s Worldwide Studios, was asked about the PS5 by Oddworld developer Lorne Lanning, he responded that he thought the PS5 was a question of ‘if’ rather than ‘when’.
Instead of major console refreshes, Sony may instead continue to update the console on a much more regular basis, bringing small hardware changes like those seen in the PC hardware market.
After all, now that the PS4 has adopted a more standard x86 processor as opposed to the enormously complex ‘Cell’ processor present in the PS3, it is now very similar to a standard desktop PC. Indeed, some have even used the phrase ‘PC in a box’ to describe the PS4.
We’re still too attached to our physical consoles to completely embrace the idea of the PS5 never making an appearance, but there are some definite signs pointing in that direction.
Conclusion: The old rules no longer apply
For four hardware generations Sony played by the rules. Each generation lasted for six years before a piece of hardware an order of magnitude more powerful was released to replace it. It was simple, and people knew what they were getting when they bought their new console.
Then the PS3’s internet connectivity happened, and the old rules more or less flew out the window. Suddenly firmware updates meant that the console’s functionality could be upgraded bit by bit, resulting in a piece of hardware which was fundamentally different from what was initially released.
Now with the PS4.5 Sony is rewriting the rules of the game again and releasing new hardware exactly halfway through the standard six year console cycle.
By the time we get to the PlayStation 5 the rules might have changed once more. Will we be streaming the majority of our content? Will VR have replaced the TV as our primary display?
With questions these big it’s almost crazy to think that the question of physical media has fallen to the sidelines. Internet speeds will have significantly improved by the time the PS5 sees the light of day, but will the amount of data required for 4K mean that discs are still required?
The future of the whole console concept is completely uncertain at this point, but we can’t wait to learn more about where it’s all heading.
Source: techradar.com
They should call it Play5tation
i'd rather buy my games for $60 on disc than digital, otherwise you couldn't sell your games if the game became boring or disliked. I'd rather be able to sell my games and get back however much money the game is worth than to be stuck with a digital game that'll just sit in my game list forever and be an eyesore. fuck Steam! Steam is full of DRM that can't be avoided.
I recently read that Nintendo may go back to cartridges for their next console, which in a way makes sense, since you can have a microSD card that holds 2.5 times what a blu ray disc can.
http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/ga…
So there are your figures.
As for 5-6ms.. a correctly configured 1Gbps network will give you way lower latency.
Before being rude to someone who obviously knows more than you, at least get your facts correctly.
Note: a server quite far, is not 3000kms away. For real time, it is 150kms.
You just put the servers in big cities and you cover 60-70% of the target audience.
Ping to LOCAL server using fibre 5 – 10ms. 150ms if quite far. Many old crap tvs have 12ms latency. Get your figures somewhere close instead of spitting out crap.
only expect 60 fps (If even that) by playstation 5 in full hd (or dynamic 1366-1920)
as the next card they will pick for playstation 5 probebly wont be close to 980 ti.. its more or less likely to be equal to 650-750 in terms of gpu power, and cpu power will probebly be like a intel 5 2,5 ghz quad core (or around there anyway.. and or if it has throtteling problem then i3)
I'm sorry, but I don't like the idea of anything scrapping the idea of discs or cartridges and be a HDD or streaming only thing. All you need is to buy 100's of games then the system goes poof after that warranty goes bye bye….then you're screwed and have to re-download all the crap when you buy a new system…. i rather have to deal w/ just the patches than the whole entire game AND patches. No disc/cartridge = worst idea ever
I always wonder why Microsoft doesn't abandon the Xbox brand and delve into PC gaming, I mean, Microsoft has PC gaming (for the moment) don't they? Yet they slump around and ignore it. I'm not saying get rid of couch gaming, but just create a PC that could do everything. In other words, why don't Microsoft install Windows for Desktop on Xbox One, rebrand it to the "Microsoft One", but still have an interface, like the amazing tablet mode on Windows 10 (which I'm using on my desktop computer right now and is amazing) to go into "Xbox Mode". That way they have a static hardware platform like Apple Mac, Google Nexus, or there very own Surface, but for the desktop. I think it would be fab. (Also have it so you could upgrade the hardware too.)
Huh… Microsoft needs to hire me…
Anyway back to PlayStation!
Woah that title is smothered in click bate sauce
Ping to a server using fiber is 5-6ms, 15ms tops if quite far.
As many tvs have 30ms latency… no way this is a big problem.
Meh, people like new things and new idea's, which is no doubt what Nintendo are going to be bringing at this years E3. My first comment was really suppose to be humorous. I <3 PlayStation.
Why are you still calling PSVR "Project Morpheus?" I had to scroll back up to the top to see if this article was old…
Does anyone think VR headset makes you look like a door knob?
4k gaming on PS5? LOL! 4K gaming is too far from being a reality, considering that the first 4K movie alone took up 300GB, Blu-ray discs now couldn't even store a 4K game, much less the PS5 playing 4k games, unless you bought a $8000 30TB hard drive to store your games on the PS5 to make it worth while, which I can't see happening, ever.
'There's a chance the PlayStation 5 will be the big, component-packed box we've grown accustomed to heating our living rooms. But it also could be a palm-sized streaming device'
Wow, your casting your net wide with this one.
'For four hardware generations Sony played by the rules. Each generation lasted for six years before a piece of hardware an order of magnitude more powerful was released to replace it. It was simple, and people knew what they were getting when they bought their new console.
Then the PS3's internet connectivity happened, and the old rules more or less flew out the window.'
four generations sony played by the rules. but the rules changed with PS3. How did you work that one out ??
Thats is why many people buy the game code for steam from russian companies.. as it is way cheaper there.
i don't care what anyone says, I'd take a CD over vinyl any day(I'm 46). The only possible reason for owning a record player nowadays is if you have LP's that you can't repurchase on CD or download. I still remember back in the 80's a friend of mine had a very nice Carver stereo system with an EQ. He played a vinyl album, then the same album on CD. The difference in sound quality was like night and day with the CD being the victor.
My hunch is that your hunch is about as wrong as you can get given the vast number of sales the PS4 has already.
my hunch is when Nintendo NX desktop console releases next year, the PlayStation 4 will be irrelevant anyway.
''PC gaming will die out as a result of having no worthwhile games to play''.hahahahaha!!!!!Console will die before pc
Ugh, are people stupid. PS5, really? The PS4 is barely a third of it's way through it's platform life. And VR gaming wise, no matter how immersive it is, there's no hiding the fact that it looks stupid, seems highly inconvenient and is very expensive – the type of things nerds will marvel at and the rest of the world will march on, none the wiser. I was promised that Playstation move would be the future and I'll be playing it in Stereo 3D, where did that go to?
With cloud gaming. I live in a valley with poor internet. My average speed dithers at around 1Mb/s , I'm lucky to load a HD pictures in a decent enough time, let alone a low latency, high framerate, High defintion video game. Even looking at the WiiU with it's SD wireless gamepad display, nintendo had troubles with latency with that and that's on a pretty fast local wifi connection.
I would happily bet $20 that 3 years from now we'll still be sat on our sofa's with a controller in hand, play games on machine.
next gen of consoles won't be out until at least 2020 so it's pointless to speculate what it will have or won't have, sony and microsoft will milk the ps4 and xb1 for every penny they can. look at how long the 360 & ps3 was around, it was 7-8 years before new consoles came out.
hey cool thanks, I'll have to check that out.
Er…….. new games that aren't remasters perhaps?. God what am i saying. Thats asking for too much!
no they CAN'T